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. >> arthel: mixed messages on fiscal cliff, next today. republican senator lindsay graham expressing optimism on deal and president obama is calling out lawmakers for rejecting offers for last month. >> what do you think the chances of a small deal in the less 48 hours to avoid the cliff? >> exceedingly good. i think what have we accomplished, a political vick for the president. the president has stood his ground. he is going to get tax rate increases but upper income americans and sad news for the country we have accomplished very little of not becoming greece. this won't affect the debt situation. it will be a political victory for the president and i hope we'll have the courage of our convictions when it comes time to raise the debt ceiling to fight for what we believe in. but hats off to the president. >> we have been talking to the republicans since the election has been over. they have had trouble to say yes to a number of repeated offers. >> so what kind of deal if any can we expect before the clock runs out? joining us for a fair balanced debate, tony is here, national political corre
the fiscal cliff, the next big battle has already arrived. treasury secretary tim geithner says government borrowing hits the debt ceiling today. with me now, former new hampshire republican senator judd gregg. he's currently co-chairman of the campaign to fix the debt. senator, let's -- i want to start 50,000 feet, and we'll move down closer to ground level, but as a former member of the senate, we've now had two grand bargains, one around the debt ceiling, one around the fiscal cliff, seemingly, well, on the debt ceiling definitely, and on this one, seemingly fall apart. now that you're on the outside, are people right to be skeptical that congress can do anything? i hesitate to say big. even medium in terms of addressing our debt and spending problems? >> oh, they're absolutely correct in being skeptical, but congress can act. it has acted in the past. regrettably, it usually acts in crisis. for example, during the financial meltdown, when the entire banking system of our nation would have collapsed, congress did act. and we've acted in other situations such as right after 9/11. so, may
the fiscal cliff. >> hopefully the next time i see you, and it is in a few hours on the air here, and you are back because you say, don, we have a deal. >> and because i told you so. >> yes. thank you, congresswoman bass. and ali, someone tweeted and they say, don lemon and ali vel shishgs i am looking to you to keep me calm, because i have just accepted that we are going over the fiscal cliff, happy new year. >> look, the world is not going to come to an end when it happens and two points, and people keep asking me, what will happen to me if we go over the fiscal cliff, and one thing is that you will feel some taxes going up and the paycheck is going to be smaller, with but that is two weeks to a month before it happens, but the more important thing is what has already happened, don, and that is that people spent less money, and the consumer confidence which had been going up for a long time has started to come down and the economy is feeling worse, and the congresswoman mentioned sequester and we won't get to that. the sequester is $109 billion in automatic spending cuts this coming yea
the fiscal cliff, consumers think next year we'll see higher taxes and lower entitlements. the only place in our space where we see a very significant fiscal cliff hit is aspirational customer, so the step-up customer into low-end tiffany's jewelry, for example, we just don't think they showed up this year. >> even if people, stacy, are going to be hit by higher taxes next year, at least some people are going to be hit by higher taxes next year, a lot of this is psychological, isn't it. you turn on the tv and you're feeling spooked, right? and once we have a deal or resolution, uncertainty taken away, will people unleash their spending? will this be unlocked? >> i think at the high end, yes, there will be some relief, and, you know, to laura's point, we were in tiffany over the weekend, you would be shocked how much sales help was available on the silver floor. typically you can't get near a sales person there. >> right. >> but a lot of it is psychological, but then again, christmas has come and gone and the full-margin products have come and gone. you fix the fiscal cliff and go into cle
ahead as we count down to the fiscal cliff. up next how middle class tax bills could get hit by the amt. liz macdonald is crunching the numbers. lori: first as we do every time, every day at this time, rather, let's check the oils market. 73 cents. back after this. it's the little things in life that make me smile. spending the day with my niece. i don't use super poligrip for hold because my dentures fit well. before those little pieces would get in between my dentures and my gum and it was uncomfortable. even well-fitting dentures let in food particles. super poligrip is zinc free. with just a few dabs, it's clinically proven to seal out more food particles so you're more comfortable and confident while you eat. so it's not about keeping my dentures in, it's about keeping the food particles out. [ charlie ] try zinc free super poligrip. lori: washington is hard at work at this hour. we're getting dribs and drabs of information. you can call it just that. in eye event if a deal is not reached in time it can be hundreds of headaches for middle class americans when it comes to paying tax
a small deal on taxes before the fiscal cliff deadlines up, their next fight over the dead ceiling will be queued up and ready to go. whether or not we go over the fiscal cliff tomorrow night, a political stand-off over the debt ceiling is imminent. joining us sort through all of this current and future fiscal crises is ezra klein. at "the washington post" as well as columnist for bloomberg view. thanks for joining us. you addressed the issue of what happens next, i saw you on rachel's show friday. your theory are it's key to how the fiscal cliff plays out. explain. >> there's a significant difference of opinion in the political ramification of what happens if we go over and it comes down debt ceiling. if we go over the fiscal cliff they have all of the leverage because we'll go into the debt ceiling and it will be just like 2011 again. they'll say we're not going to raise the debt ceiling unless you cut entitlements, barack obama will say no and terrified of consequences of national default he'll say yes. so they'll get all of the entitlement cuts with no tax increases on the tabl
, sanjay. >>> more on our special coverage of the fast moving negotiations over the fiscal cliff. up next, hear why one high profile democrat says going over the cliff would be good for the stock market. and your 401(k). check this out.  >>> a compromise on the estate tax may be part of a last minute deal in the fiscal cliff. we're talking about how much money you can leave for your loved ones after you die. republicans want to extend the current estate tax that tops out at 35% and affects the states. the outline of the deal that just has been floated together would set the estate tax at 40% and the threshold at $5 million. let's bring christine romans in to make sense out of all of this. what do the numbers mean to real people? >> what it means, it is a victory politically for republicans and it means many republicans have said for a small business owner, small family farmers, people who have worked hard and amassed an estate, it means that they won't have to pay much more than they currently do for an estate tax. this is a true compromise here. because this is what you
americans when it comes to the fiscal cliff stalemate. we'll hear what some of you had to say next. Ñe >>> let's face it, fiscal cliff has most people outraged. we asked for you to send in your thoughts on this matter, and boy did you ever do it. we opened up a can of worms when we did this. joining us from orlando, and we received lots of feedback from our eye reporters, terry, i want you to listen and get your reaction to one of them who holds nothing back, calling lawmakers spoiled brats. >> this whole fiscal cliff mess shows how incredibly out of touch you are with the way people really live in this country. you are off in la-la land and everyone's saying how you're acting like a bunch of spoiled brats who are more interested in being right than doing the right thing and actually representing the people who elected you. >> understand why she's upset, because most americans -- i don't know, do you think most americans have an idea of what all this fiscal cliff chatter means? >> oh, yes. oh, yes, don, i think people have a very, very good idea, and it's not just a selfish idea, eithe
the fiscal cliff. they can see how damaging it is politically. they also are looking forward to the next fight about the debt ceiling, which is going to be even more damaging. so they always say it's the other guy who wants to go over the fiscal cliff. i don't hear people going out and saying i think it's a good idea that everyone pays more taxes or there are these deep spending cuts. they're all pretending like they know everyone else's strategy. it's about coming to a yes as opposed to agreeing to a no. that's where they don't want to take the heat. >> richard wolf, always good to see you, my friend. thanks. >> thanks, chris. >> the real victims of the fight will not necessarily be republicans or democrats, of course. it's going to be the american people. we talked to bernie sanders about those 2.1 million people on unemployment. we'll look at what going over the fiscal cliff will actually mean to you. our special coverage continues in just a moment. ♪ [ male announcer ] every time you say no to a cigarette, you celebrate a little win. nicoderm cq, the patch with time release smart c
to talk about the fiscal cliff, at least for the next four hours. lawmakers on capitol hill have been trying to strike a deal before the midnight deadline. another update is next. on "the fox report." [ lisa ] my name's lisa, and chantix helped me quit. i honestly loved smoking, and i honestly didn't think i would ever quit. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix is proven to help people quit smoking. it reduces the urge to smoke. it put me at ease that you could smoke on the first week. [ male announcer ] some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. if you notice any of these stop taking chantix and call your doctor right away. tell your doctor about any history of depression or other mental health problems, which could get worse while taking chantix. don't take chantix if you've had a serious allergic or skin reaction to it. if you develop these stop taking chantix and see your doctor right away as some can be life-threatening. if you have a history heart
falling over the fiscal cliff. senate leaders need to put something together to avoid tax increases for just about everyone and big spending cuts. senator claire mccaskill says a make or brake deal comes down to a few lawmakers on topic of raising taxes for the wealthy. >> it remains to be scene whether the republicans being driven by a very extreme group of house members will allow our economy to pert because of their desire to protect multimillionaires in this country. that's what it's going to boil down to. >> any plan would need house speaker john baner to bring it to the floor for a vote. republican representative tom cole says he's confident that boehner can get the votes he needs. >> on the speaker's plan, he had over 200 republican votes, it's not as if he had an awfully strong hand to play, if it's a deal john boehner can accept, it will be passed in a bipartisan manner with a very strong majority. if on the other hand he's neutral or not favorable, his chances will be a lot slimmer. >> lisa desjardins following the fiscal cliff negotiations on capitol hill. do you have any
on the fiscal cliff. one of the big questions is, what will happen next? editor at large for fortune magazine, he joins us from new york right now. you have followed most of the major economic stories for more than 20 years now. >> i'm not trying to make you seem old. sometimes i do, when i say how long i've been doing this. is this the first time you've seen something go this close to the wire? >> i think so, don. and what's really troubling about the debate is really missed by a lot of commentators, this is really a spending issue. we understand that even if taxes go up on individuals making over 200,000 and families making over 250, it only plugs about 8% of the deficit problem over the next ten years, we have a $1.3 trillion deficit for 2012. it's going to be about a trillion through 2013. we're borrowing 35 cents on the dollar. the enormous problem is interest rates are way below normal, so when they spike, the government is borrowing very short term to keep its costs down. the deficit is going to swamp the economy. and at that point you're going to have the debt crisis, and you're going
:00 p.m. eastern for the very latest on the fiscal cliff negotiations and possibly votes. up next, "meet the press," david gregory's exclusive interview with president obama. we'll keep you updated throughout the hour on any elements when it comes to the deal-making on capitol hill. ve a cold, announcer ] alka-selr plus presents the cold truth. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still "stubbed" up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have a decongestant. no way. [ male announcer ] sorry. alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast acting decongestant to relieve your stuffy nose. [ sighs ] thanks! [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth! [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus. ♪ oh what a relief it is! ♪ [ male announcer ] to learn more about the cold truth and save $1 visit alka-seltzer on facebook.
this deal may not happen next. obviously a lot of attention tonight on the fiscal cliff. we're inside 30 hours until the expiration date on tax cuts. there are other important bits of business on capitol hill before the end of the year. in other words, in the next 30 hours or so. on friday, the senate approved a more than $60 billion bill to pay for construction costs for superstorm sandy. you see the video of that here. the house still needs to vote on that legislation. it isn't clear yet what the house is going to do. molly henneberg is live in d.c. there's a holdup in the house. what is it? >> the price tag. house republicans say it's too steep. a south carolina republican congressman said he and others want to help the people hurt by sandy but lawmakers need to figure out where the money's going to come from. >> it's not paid for. i know that's a difficult conversation to have but it's a necessary conversation. if we can't come together and figure out a way to stop spending someplace else to pay for this disaster, do we hope to be able to balance our budget and fix our spending diffi
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burden on millionaires. the result, find out next. >> bret: no grapevine. top story, fiscal cliff is going over it. the senate majority leader, not moved the bill to the senate floor yet. the house would only deal with whatever passed the senate. if it passed the senate at all. all indications are the house will not vote on any fiscal cliff legislation tonight. here is how the potential deal stacks up. they will be taxed at 39.6%. up from 35%. tax on capital gain and individuals for $400,000 for individuals would increase to 20%. from 15%. the alternative minimum tax is permanently indexed to inflation. it has been annual patch. that would be permanent. the plan extent the child tax red earned income tax credit. up to $2,500 tax credit for collision tuition. unemployment benefit are extented for one year. same for the medicare doc fix and the social security payroll tax cut. reverse to rate of 6.2%. those are the deals as they stand right now. although things are developing and they could change. those looking to europe for inspir ration and coming up with american tax rates that
cliff. we'll see what happens over the next few hours. tom foreman, thank you. much more on the fiscal cliff coming up. >>> there are serious ramifications for almost every american involved in this negotiati negotiation. we'll update when when we come back. ♪ [ male announcer ] this is karen and jeremiah. they don't know it yet, but they're gonna fall in love, get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where they almost never fight about money. [ dog barks ] because right after they get married, they'll find some retirement people who are paid on salary, not commission. they'll get straightforward guidance and be able to focus on other things, like each other, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. >>> okay, we've got the breaking news we're following here in washington. we've been thinking about it. we've been talking about it for a long time. guess what, the united states is now going over the so-called fiscal cliff. that's because the house of representatives is adjourning as
cliff. senate democrats have not. if the president and lawmakers cannot reach a deal in the next five days, automatic tax hikes and major spending cuts are set to kick in and economists warn that could trigger another recession. what else are we hearing from democrats on the hill? >> trace, very interesting comments from vice president joe biden up here for an unrelated matter about the fiscal cliff today. he says, essentially he was asked what do you think will pass? he said if you tell me what would attract republican support, i can tell you what would pass. if asked if he was optimistic, he said he was neither optimistic or pessimistic but was going back to talk to the president. the senate majority leader sounded frustrated with house republican leadership. >> american people i don't think understand the house of representatives is operating out the house of representatives. it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker, not allowing the vast majority of the house representatives to get what they want. >> reporter: as you mentioned, trace, the speaker's spokesman said aft
. >> next, talking about the fiscal cliff. john thune. >> thank you for the update. midafternoon today, senator john thune spoke with reporters on where things stand on the fiscal cliff. >> where do things stand as far as a republican deal? >> republicans advanced a proposal last night and you heard senator mcconnell talk about it on the floor. we're still waiting for a counteroffer. there was an indication we would receive the by 10:00 this morning, but discussions still continue. senator mcconnell and vice president joe biden are continuing to discuss this and we think there still could be a path forward. democrats have come out and made a huge deal out of changing this and republicans are very concerned that it should not be used as an offset to reduce or replace some of the spending cuts that would occur and democrats put forward an alternative. this is a process. there's a lot of give-and-take going on. republicans do not want to see new revenue, democratic tax increases, being used for new spending. that is where many members are drawing the line. >> you all want to use this tech
but the hoursntil we reach the fiscal cliff. congress goes back to work in a few hours. at the last minute, the vice president is getting involved. we're going to have the latest on those talks ahead. >>> right now, at 6:00, here it is. already 2013 in auckland, new zealand. this is a live look there right now. they are the first to ring in this new year. >> exciting. >> very exciting. happy new year. >> happy new year to you too and everyone out there in new zealand. >> beautiful fireworks. it's 6:00, 6:01. it's pretty chilly here. if you have to go to work this morning, bundle up for your commute. storm team 4 meteorologist veronica johnson has the forecast. >> bundle up for sure. the current temperatures there. but look at the windchill readings. they're 5, 6, 7 degrees lower than the actual air temperature. it's not taking much. only a wind of 5 to 10 miles per hour. for this area now, it's a westerly wind. again, it's bringing the numbers down. sandy spring windchill reading at 22 degrees. east into prince george's county, around largo, you're feeling like 23. 21 right now the windchill reading
tax bills rise next year by $2,000. the fiscal cliff isn't the only thing rattling the economy. in just a few weeks lawmakers will begin battling over the debt ceiling. you may recall that in the summer of 2011 the debt limit standoff led to the first ever downgrade of the nation's credit rating. joining us now from capitol hill is cnbc's aman jabbers. appreciate you helping us make sense of all of this. >> happy new year. thank you for having me. >> on a less happy note, there are economists who are saying this whole fight over the fiscal cliff, the rangeling in washington has already caused a hit on the economy. can you explain sort of what the impact of the debate has been. >> you dw definitely seen it. ju as early as friday when we report that the president was not making his new offer with offers down at the white house. we saw the stock market sell off rather dramatically just in those couple of minutes as that news was coming out. i got to say that over the past 24 hours or so the stock market has been relatively calm sort of expecting a deal, expecting that lawmakers wi
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for some direction after fiscal cliff negotiations stall. we get the word from the nyse floor, next on what you should be watching in today's session. later on, the anti-tax man himself is here to tell us about how he feels about the latest developments in the fiscal cliff negotiations. what a wild ride here we've seen all morning long. right now the dow up about 25. >>> welcome back to "squawk on the street." i'm john harwood in washington. i want to bring you up to date on the latest of the talks between vice president biden and mitch mcconnell. there's some concern among democrats who have heard that the income threshold for tax rate increases may be going up to 400, 450, $500,000. a source familiar with the talks just phoned me to say the democrats are only considering that under a couple of conditions. one is that if the threshold goes up to that level, the top income tax rate would go all the way back up to the clinton era rate of 39.6%. not some mid point of 37% talked about a couple of weeks ago. secondly, that it would be accompanied by more revenue from the estate tax than is happ
you very much. i yield the floor. >> next, joe manchin talking about his plan for the fiscal cliff. their diligent work. they have committed themselves to this work and i appreciate it and they keep us all informed. mr. president, i rise today frustrated, embarrassed and angry. it is absolutely inexcusable that all of us find ourselves in this place at this time, standing on the floor of the senate in front of the american people hours before we plunge off the fiscal cliff. with no plan and no apparent hope. but here we are ande have got to do something. if we're as determined to go over the cliff as we seem, we've got to do something to soften theanding because at the bottom of the fiscal cliff, our our -- are immediate and massive tax increases, deep and indiscriminate spending cuts and the risk of another recession. so as we come down on the final hours, we have two choices -- to do nothing and cause an unbelievable amount of hardship for our fellow americans or to do something to reduce the suffering inflicted on our citizens by an inflexible political system. mr. president, i
a raise. and if you are counting on a tax refund in the next few weeks, the fiscal cliff could force you to wait just a little bit longer than usual. >>> checking our top stories. the nation is now 14 hours away from the fiscal cliff. sources tell us vice president joe biden and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell talked through the night and vow to keep these negotiations going on today. the gridlock in washington could also hold up your tax refund. you might have to wait until late march to file if congress does not approve a short-term fix for the alternative minimum tax in the next few days. same issue two years ago delayed the opening of tax season by four weeks to mid-february. >>> former president george h.w. bush is still in a houston hospital but no longer in intensive care. bush was moved to regular patient room on saturday to continue his recovery. the 88-year-old was initially hospitalized with bronchitis last month, came down last week with a stubborn fever. >>> parts of the midwest are under a windchill advisory today. it's going to feel like 35 below in parts of minneso
away from the fiscal cliff deadline and still no deal. lawmakers called it a day around 7:30 tonight and will be back tomorrow. they're stuck on the income threshold for higher taxes and the taxevel on large estates. vice president joe biden has taken over as lead negotiator for democrats and expected to keep working with mitch mcconnell. steve handelsman explains why some lawmakers might prefer to go over the cliff. >> reporter: the night before the fiscal cliff. >> the senate stands in recess. >> reporter: the senate gave until tomorrow. >> there still time left to reach an agreement. >> reporter: house lawmakers headed home, dropping a command to cut social security and hope the senate sends them a deal with minimal tax hikes on the rich. >> i'm still optimistic that we can get this averted before the final hour here tomorrow. >> reporter: when the clock strikes 2013, taxes go up on most americans. huge defense cuts kick in, which some republicans claim barack obama favors. >> it's obvious the president wants us to go over the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: on "meet the press," presid
advantage to waiting to go off the fiscal cliff and coming back in january. the house speaker john boehner may have more flexibility as we're just saying. so that's one plus and democrats also will have a strengthened position in the congress come january. >> if republicans wait until the start of the new congress they can say, you know what? we voted to lower taxes. >> exactly. >> they just went up. >> i want to end with you here because we spend a lot of time talking about the fiscal cliff and the fact of the matter is the sequestration is fazed in. >> right. >> when you start talking about some of these taxes, whether it's the ending of unemployment insurance -- >> yeah. >> whether it's the payroll tax holiday going away, you start talking about an immediate impact for millions of families in this country. >> part of david's spoipoint is there's two to three-month wriggle room and shifting resources to unemployment insurance to keeping marginal tax rates unchanged, you know, for the next few months. at some point, look, they won't be able to do that. i would say it's unlikely wow won't
is prepared to step in today if congress can't get something together to deal with the fiscal cliff deadline just 14 hours away from now. an update from 1600 pennsylvania avenue moments away. >> well, it will be somewhere between 8,000 to $12,000. so i'm not looking forward to that. >> is that more than you expected to go up january 1st. >> even a dollar's more than i can afford, yes. so not good news heather: thousands of first-responders are joining friends and family paying tribute to a hero firefighter gunned down in the line of duty. you're looking live at the scene. this is in webster, new york, where the funeral of getting underway. the 19-year-old volunteer was one of two firefighters shot and killed on christmas eve while responding to a fire set by gunman, william spengler. we well have much more on this coming up. we have potential breaking news. potential movement on the senate on the budget battle. brand new hour of america's news headquarters. i'm heather childers in for martha maccallum. gregg: i'm gregg jarrett in for bill hemmer. the number two in the republican senate sayin
for your time. >> thanks, chris. >>> president obama will be making a statement on the fiscal cliff moments from now at 1:30 eastern time. stay with us for live coverage of that. next, an update on secretary of state hillary clinton's health scare. >>> minutes from now medicine prez obama will make a statement about the state of the fiscal cliff negotiations. stay with us for live coverage of it. >>> meantime, secretary of state hillary clinton is under observation at new york -- at a new york city hospital today. her spokesman says she was admitted sunday for a blood clot stemming from the concussion she sustained during a recent bout with the stomach flu. nbc's chief science and health correspondent bob bazell is at new york presbyterian hospital where secretary clinton is being treated. bob, i know this is a story we're all keeping a very close eye on. what's the latest? we know she has a blood clot that came from -- they say from the concussion. we know it's being treated with anti-coagulant drugs. a lot of doctors are puzzled by that series of events because most blood clots that come
of oscillation on the back of, as you said, the fiscal cliff and concerns that we may fall off. does that mean that people are getting complacent? they think even though we might not get a deal in the next 24 hours, we will get a deal fairly imminently. in the meantime, though, this is what we've got in terms of the major european indices. that will open and the germans will come to that in a few minutes' time it has been up year-to-date around about 6% and that makes the ftse 100 a real lagger compared with some of its european peers. a laggard, as well, compared to the cac 40. we have no fiscal cliff deal as of yet and it is up 1%. that means the cac 40, the french equity market, the blue chips there are up over 15% year-to-date. and a lot of markets are being shut today, including the dax, it pales to insignificant compared to this. the dax when it closed on friday closed out a 29% increase year-to-date. a stunning performance from those german blue chips, especially when you consider the fact that we are in and out of recession in europe, we have a real malaise in front of a lot of sectors
minute talks to avoid the fiscal cliff. barbara boxer is talking right there on the senate floor of the house and senate both in rare new year's eve sessions today ahead of the deadline that triggers across the board tax hikes with dramatic cuts in military and domestic spending. joining us now bob cusack the manage evening editor of the hill the. great to have you here today. >> great to be here. >> many americans are frustrated that congress has taken us to the brink once again with little or no progress. what are you hearing at this moment? is there progress at this time? >> well, we are hearing that there has been progress between vice president biden and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. still we are nearly 12 hours from the cliff. we don't have a bill. there has actually been a stunning lack of urgency on cant toll hill. on the default showdown, the government shut down there was more urgency. here there just isn't that urgency, maybe because the markets haven't been the roller coaster we thought they would be. eventually people will see less money in their paychecks
-called fiscal cliff and now has to live by it over the next several hours to see if something can get done. erica? >> kelly o'donnell, thank you. chuck todd is nbc's political director. kelly mentioned some constructive movement but then there's this chasm we keep hearing about. is there a chance for a deal? >> i think -- i want to say yes, there's a chance for a deal! they're not that far apart. it really depends on the political motivations of the people at the negotiating table. you think about joe biden and mitch mcconnell, mitch mcconnell is totally looking at this through a political lens, what is in the best interest of republicans in his view? from what i understand in his view he thinks what's in the best interest of the republican party is getting the tax issue off the table and then having a big knockdown, drag-down fight with the president in six weeks over the debt ceiling. under that scenario, that would tell me, okay, he's likely to want to make a deal. when you look at the actions that republicans threw out that idea of throwing in the social security change and suddenly de
bared that out. the election bared that out and passing the fiscal cliff and looks like we will have kind of another temporary crisis in the next month or three months, they again have to fight the stereotypes and label that is built up. >> one of those jumped out at me. maybe run it by you. for the democrats, the argument of don't offend gun owners and manners, you don't want to offend anybody needlessly, a voter or group. i get that. you point to the example of the 2000 election and say al gore lost maybe the presidency because of maybe gun ownership and so much the map changed that the votes to win a national election, to win statewide election for democrats now -- gore lost kentucky, missouri, wf w6, his ohm state of tennessee and where the gun issue's hurt him. those are republican states. democrats have taken a decade off on gun control and haven't made any headway with gun owners and still voting as reliably republican now than maybe more so. isn't the lesson it's okay to be easy on gun control? >> i don't think so. people that voting for president obama because of the auto ba
in the hospital the next 48 hours so doctors can monitor her medication. >>> the looming fiscal cliff, lawmakers on capitol hill today, leaders say no deal is in sight. >> happy new year. >> reporter: the house and senate back to work for a rare sunday session, trying to figure out the fiscal cliff negotiations. a lot of talk. very few solutions so far. >> our membership is as frustrated as the american people we're sworn to serve. >> none of the votes we'll be casting today have nothing to do with the deadlines we face in slightly more than 24 hours. we're here, we're ready. >> reporter: president obama sitting down for his first sunday morning talk show interview in over three years told nbc it's time for lawmakers to nail down a deal. >> we don't yet see an agreement, and now the pressure is on congress to produce. >> reporter: republicans and democrats going back and forth behind closed doors, working through the night, trying to avoid some of the most painful tax hikes and spending cuts in our nation's history. >> there's still significant distance between the two sides. but negotiations co
'll hear from republican congressman howard mckin about the fiscal cliff talks from the other side of the aisle. this family used capital one venture miles to come home for the holidays. that's double miles you can actually use... sadly, their brother's white christmas just got "blacked out." [ brother ] but it's the family party! really jingles your bells, doesn't it? my gift to you! the capital one venture card! for any flight, any time! that's double miles you can actually use! how illuminating. what's in your wallet? let me guess, am i on the naughty list again? ho ho ho! >>> secretary of state hillary clinton will be ringing in the new year from a hospital. doctors closely monitoring clinton for the next couple days. they discovered a blood clot during a followup exam related to a concussion she suffered earlier this month. the state department issued this statement saying "she's being treated with blood thinners and is at new york hospital to monitor the medication. her doctors will continue to assess her condition including other issues associated with her concussion." here'
on "starting point," the latest on the fiscal cliff negotiations. we'll ask one house member if he expects to be voting on a deal today. next, utah congressman jason chaffetz. and is the kardashian clan about to get bigger? the new year's news you had to have. kim and kanye west, they respond to the pregnancy rumors. >>> breaking news, everyone. you're watching "starting point." so i switched my car insurance to state farm... saved $480 bucks. you know what that is? yeah. don't say it. so you know what it is, right? yeah, yeah, don't. that's a lot of dough! ♪ [ male announcer ] switch and you could save $480 bucks with state farm. when i'm out with my kids, my daughter's like, "mom, wait up!" and i'm thinking, "shouldn't you have more energy than me? you're, like, eight!" [ male announcer ] for every 2 pounds you lose through diet and exercise alli can help you lose one more by blocking some of the fat you eat. simple. effective. advantage: mom. let's fight fat with alli. learn more, lose more at letsfightfat.com. >>> millions of americans counting down to a stifling new year of tax hike
're keeping our eye on the senate back in session with the fiscal cliff talks now down to the wire. the big question is even if the senate reaches a deal as they continue the debate will republicans pass anything with tax hikes in the house? up next republican congressman tom cole. and baby makes three. kim kardashian and kanye west's big baby announcement. also, sydney, australia celebrating the new year just three hours ago with fireworks over the famous opera house. in new york city, an already crowded times square. people waking up there. our big question what is your new year's resolution for 2013? tweet me at richard lui. we'll share some of your comments later. >>> a live look at the markets which appear to be taking going over the fiscal cliff in stride. many people say it is built into the market. many investors are still confident leaders will strike some sort of deal as talks go down to the wire and even if they don't they are counting on senate majority leader harry reid to present a backup proposal to limit some of the damage. we're watching live pictures on the right-hand side
a fiscal cliff deal until late january, but the possible market turmoil to follow could create a stock buying opportunity. joining me now, global financial services president and portfolio manager. of course you'll see the glass half full on this one. yet been saying this since november, to be fair. >> taking the position that we don't think the politicians are really going to get anything done until the backs of firmly against the wall which will be after the first pay cycle of the new year. that's why we are expecting third week of january, but this is also an opportunity. we have to recognize that. if you look at the market today, just imagine. if you pull 20 investment professionals yesterday we probably would have said markets are going to be down today. better than expected economic news. cheryl: is trying to, but they're is a lot -- one of the best performing sectors of 2012 was financials. it would have predicted that at the beginning of 2012? is in that kind of hard for people to focus on what sectors for people to look at when you have this crowd of cliff uncertainty? >> ther
-span fiscal cliff website to get the latest information. you should be checking back over the next 48 hours as things develop. guest: 8 the deadline this afternoon. the senate has set a self- imposed deadline for 3:00. host: is that senator reid's plan b? guest: it is clearly fall back. we will try to come up with negotiations. if not, we will bring a bill to the floor, he will tell the republicans. it will increase taxes on everyone earning over $250,000. it will fix the alternative minimum tax and extend unemployment. it would be those three elements. he would be saying to the republicans, negotiate with me. we can do to something better. otherwise, we will take a vote on this. i would expect this to be filibustered. that may play into what the white house wants, that would mean republicans having to take responsibility. john boehner did promise to bring up whatever the senate passed. he said we might amend it. an amendment process would almost certainly mean going over the cliff. host: sue is next on the independent line. caller: i think members of congress and the senate need to remembe
when it comes to the fiscal cliff. one, we'll see an agreement within the next 48 hours in which case middle class taxes will not go up. if that doesn't happen, then democrats in the senate will put a bill on the floor of the senate and republican also have to decide if they're going to block it. >> biden and mcconnell are said to be only about $100,000 apart on where the bush era tax cuts would expire with the republican pushing for $550,000 a year. democrats offering a 450,000. biden stowed have given up his push to raise the estate tax. democrats are trying to delay spending cuts until 2015 and republicans are demanding more spending cuts to offset extended unemployment benefits and farm subsidies. lot of ground to make up. but mcconnell says his decision to reach out to biden was a good one. >> the vice president and i worked together on solutions before and i believe we can again. i want my colleagues to know that we'll keep everyone updated, the consequences of this are too high for the american people to be engaged in a political mess. i'm interested in getting a result here. >
concerns. >> just the uncertainty, the fiscal cliff and how things are gonna pan out from these next few months. >> the increase on sales tax from prop 30 will last for four years. the god news for consumers, the sales increase does not apply to gas. >>> 8:24. let's go to tara right now. we have some problems on caltrain. what's going on? >> that's right. on the southbound 322 train we had an emergency break near brisbane due to signal problems. we'll keep you posted on whether it causes more widespread delays. 101 looking good. we do want to mention that muni, vta, caltrain and sam transare all offering free rides tonight. so be aware of it. b.a.r.t. also offering extended service. up next, the bay bridge, your commute into san francisco, a nice one. no delays at all. the metering lights never went on. 101 near san jose, northbound as you make your way to the air looking good. here's steve. >>> all right, tara. thank you very much. cold this morning. 20s, upper 20s -- 20ss, some 30s. that system coming in is losing a lot of its punch. 30s, livermore airport has just gotten a little bit
the so-called "fiscal cliff." this is a live picture of the u.s. capital right now where the house is set to reconvene less than a half hour from now. but there are questions about how much progress can be made. andrew spencer has more on why the process steams have stalled -- seeps to have stalled. >> if there is an ultimate compromise, there will be parts of it that i find disgusting and reprehensible which i may have to swallow in the name of finding compromise. >> reporter: a rare sunday session on capitol hill. >> the senate will come to order. >> reporter: as lawmakers work on a voiding the so-called "fiscal cliff." talks briefly hit a, quote, major setback on sunday over social security benefits according to a democratic source. but both sides agree to push forward. >> i want everyone to know i'm willing to get this done. but i need a dance partner. >> reporter: vice president joe biden is apparently that person for senate minority leader mitch much. top level sources say the two are taking over talks. if nothing is resolved by midnight tax rates for all americans will increase. de
as lawmakers try to solve the fiscal cliff impasse ahead of tonight's deadline. china ends the year under the sign of growth. manufacturing activity hits its fastest pace in 18 months. but it's been a lackluster pace for markets which hosts a modest return for the year. germany, hong kong manage to outperform. so just where should investors put their money in the new year? we've been asking analysts and economist toes give us their top calls for 2013. >> do you think the u.s. is going to continue to be strong if they can solve the fiscal cliff issues, keep economic indicators up, what they're doing with the job is good, performance is good. asia will take a while, to the end of 2013. we'll see good entrepreneurial activity. that's going to depend on good performance in stocks. >> it will appreciate even with weaker economy or, you know, stagnated economy because there's not much growth to be accepted from all europe, you know, obviously call europe like germany will grow with the global economy here. but at the moment, because of the issues in japan and all the issues in the u.s., euro an
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year. the main dispute continues to be over taxes. >> as the nation nears the fiscal cliff in hawaii is lieutenant governor is said to be sworn in to the senate today replacing the late senator daniel inouye. for a year old schatz is a former white democratic party chairman and lawmaker. he was chosen over u.s. rep colleen had help boost the home was suggested shortly before it and always death. >> not allowing the vast majority of the house of representatives to get what they want. if that to 50 would be brought up it would pass over. on any given day for the last five or six months since the giant banner could have passed tax cuts and it would pass. he is doing, he has made the decision that he does not won a vote on it. because if he voted on it it would pass. i have sat here mr. president is not too late for this eager to take up the senate-passed bill. that time is winding down. today is thursday, he is going to get 48 hours' notice of the house before they come back. 48 hours from today is saturday. with just that one vote middle-class families would have security that taxes wo
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or not we will be heading off the fiscal cliff. what impact will it have on the 2013 economy? we head live to times square for a special edition of bank on this. this nfl player right there losing his temper after a call by the ref. what set him off? we will tell you. first let's check in with dave briggs to see what is coming up on "fox & friends." i understand this is your last day with us. we are going to miss you. >> i will miss this place indeed. it's my fox family. a big show coming up we, too, are counting down to the fiscal cliff to new year's eve to the nfl post season on my last day as you said and clayton's birthday mind you. an update on hillary clinton's condition in just about 10 minutes join us for "fox & friends" 6-9 eastern time. >> welcome back. it is 52 after the top of the hour. let's span the globe to see what's happening in headlines. hugo chavez is reporting from new complications following his recent cancer surgery there. so far we are hearing those complications are stemming from a respiratory infection and his condition is delicate. next to northern ireland where
for the nation's lawmakers to avoid the dreaded "fiscal cliff." we have a live picture from the u.s. capital where the house just reconvened just a short tim ago. a source telling the "associated press" the democrats have offered to extend tax cuts for families making up to $450,000 a year and individuals that are making $400,000 a year. the president originally wanted the tax cuts to be extended only for families making up to $250,000 a year. for more on the down-to-the wire talks here's andrew spencer. >> if there is an ultimate compromise, there will be parts of it that i find disgusting and reprehensible which i may have to swallow in the name of compromise. >> reporter: a rare sunday session on capitol hill. >> senate will come to order. >> reporter: as lawmakers work on avoiding the so-called "fiscal cliff." talks briefly hit a, quote, major setback on sunday over social security benefits according to a democratic source. but both sides agree to push forward. >> i want everyone to know i'm willing to get this done, but i need a dance partner. >> reporter: vice president joe biden is ap
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